No Ghosts in the Shining???

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WOW! This guy put a LOT of thought into this. Maybe even more than Stanley Kubrick or maybe even Stephen King themselves did!

 

He makes many intriguing points.  I respectfully disagree with him on some big issues, but theres no denying he has many fascinating theories that, from his point of view, seem to make some sense.

 

When wendy looks down at her husbands stack of typed pages she sees

” All Work and No Play makes Jack a Dull Boy” and…. I never noticed before,  a few times the words “make Jack adult boy”

For you younguns that grew up with computers always around, the sentence

” All Work and No Play makes Jack a Dull Boy”  is an exercise you would often do in High School typing class to learn the keys. ( Do they still teach old school typing?  It still works for word processing doesn’t it?)  And of course ” The Quick Brown Fox Jumped over the Lazy Dog” ( it has every letter in the alpha bet).

Theres a documentary on the making of the film that discusses how a production assistant had to type up all of those hundreds ( or maybe thousands of pages) AND that that person had to RE type them up repeatedly in different languages.  “A dull boy”   and “adult boy” fit into his thesis.  But not in other languages. And did Kubrick tell his typist ” make most of the lines ‘ dull boy’  but every so often type ‘ adult boy’ “?

The elevator isn’t a geyser of blood, its a geyser of “liquid irresponsibility” ???

I don’t buy it. Early in the film Jack tells Grady ” My wife Wendy is a confirmed horror film addict”  and the lobby full or cob web-bey skeletons- purely the type of  B movie horror image that would be in Wendys head?

 

Part of me thinks some of it doesn’t mean anything. Like Luis Bunuels “Un Chien Andalou” and ( I suspect) a lot of David Lynch’s  work, weird imagery that one might assume must MEAN something…. but perhaps really doesn’t.  In the 1980s there was a LOT of “short art films” made for MTV. They’re called “music videos” ( duh!).  The directors of all of those videos had to keep trying to come up with unique imagery.  You had to show the band and make them look sexy and exciting.  You also had to have what MTVs demographic audience ( teen boys) wanted: sexy girls,  cool cars, some violence and explosions. You would think the video would tell the same “story” as the song,  but music videos didn’t always do that. They had to put in any odd exciting images they could, and I doubt they always “meant something.”

 

One would have a right to think that ALL of the odd imagery in THE SHINING means something. It tells the story, it tells us something about the characters and why they behave the way they do.

Theres many essays and even video documentaries on Kubrick’s hidden meaning of the number “237”

I don’t think it means anything.

In the book the evil room is “217”  in the movie it is 237.

The not so special meaning behind the change is that the real hotel the story is based on  HAS a room 217, and they asked the evil room to be renamed to a room they didn’t have.

They thought guests would be afraid to stay in a room with a bad reputation.

Although these days I think a lot of weirdo tourists would specifically ASK to be in the haunted room. ( I would and I bet you would too!).

One problem with that theory? WHAT hotel asked them to change the number? The hotel in the book  was based on the Stanley Hotel. But in the movie its all a set constructed in England. WHO would complain?

https://www.quora.com/How-come-in-The-Shining-the-room-number-used-in-the-book-is-217-but-the-room-number-in-the-movie-is-237

In the Timberline Lodge, where they filmed the exterior shots of the hotel, there was a room 217. The hotel managers were afraid that if they used 217 in the film, guests would be too afraid to stay in that room in the future. There was no Room 237 in the hotel, so Stanley Kubrick agreed to use 237 instead.

Ironically, since the movie came out, 217 is the most requested room at the Timberline Lodge.

HA! I knew it!

 

The maze IN the hotels hallways and the outside hedgerow maze.  Sorry the inside ISN’T a maze and the outside maze was created because the filmmakers couldn’t figure out how to make the books hedgerow sculpture animals ( 1980s stop motion would look goofy and not at all scarey)  When they did the TV remake they used CGI to make the hedge animals. At the time I thought they looked real but in hindsight,  when I watch the remake now the CGI looks terrible:

Dad jack is envious of his sons lack of responsibility?  Maybe.

 

All of the Native American artifacts in the hotel means the hotel is built over a haunted “indian burial ground” ( a very beat to death cliche in contemporary horror)?  Maybe. But more likely, Kubrick and his set dressers looked at real Colorado hotels and saw that THAT is how a Colorado hotel would look like.  A British hotel would have lots of British stuff in it, a Japanese hotel would have lots of Japanese stuff in it, a Hotel in Mexico would look Mexican… etc…  And not all American hotels look the same.  A New York City hotel would look very different than on in Arizona- or at least in a movie you would need to show that.  Its a Colorado hotel that LOOKS very Colorado- I think thats about it.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stanley_Hotel

 

 

 

 

 

 

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