Bugliosi, Oswalds Guilt

https://mattkprovideo.com/2020/12/02/bugliosi-oswalds-guilt/

This is Vincent Bugliosi’s list of reasons he believes Lee Harvey Oswald was guilty of assassinating President John F. Kennedy.

This is from his book “Reclaiming History”.

(1) Oswald always visited Marina in Irving on a Friday. Nov 21 was the first Thursday visit ever.

(2) Oswald’s claim to be getting curtain rods in Irving was an implausible lie.

(3) Oswald told Frazier he would NOT be coming back to Irving on Friday night.

(4) That night Oswald avoided Kennedy talk with Marina, a subject it was their custom to discuss.

(5) Friday morning, Oswald left almost all his cash and his wedding ring in Irving.

(6) On Friday morning, Oswald placed a long paper-wrapped package in the back seat of Frazier’s car.

 (7) Frazier noticed that for the first time on a return trip from Irving, Oswald brought no lunch.

 (8) On arrival at the TSBD, Oswald walked faster and ahead of Frazier for the first time ever.

 (9) For the first time ever, Oswald didn’t read the paper in the TSBD domino room.

10) Oswald’s pretense with a co-worker that he didn’t know JFK’s route

(11) Howard Brennan saw Lee Harvey Oswald fire the third shot that killed the President.

 (12) Kennedy’s assassin was at the now-infamous sixth-floor window.

(13) During interrogation, Oswald put himself on the sixth floor at the time of the assassination.

(14) Oswald’s story of getting a Coke after hearing commotion of assassination is not sensible.

 (15) It makes no sense that Oswald the “political animal” had no interest in the President’s death.

(16) After the assassination, only Oswald missed a roll call at the TSBD.

(17) Oswald walked past his normal bus stop and walked seven blocks to board a different line.

 (18) Oswald left the Marsalis bus when it got caught in traffic.

 (19) Oswald’s not speaking to the cab driver about the assassination is striking.

 (20) Oswald had the cab drive past his residence, dropping him off down the road.

(21) Oswald’s behavior at his boarding house indicates a flight in progress.

(22) Oswald retrieved his revolver at the rooming house.

(23) In addition to getting a coat and his gun, Oswald changed trousers.

(24) Lee Harvey Oswald murdered J.D. Tippit.

(25) A store manager saw Oswald evading police sirens in front of his store.

(26) Oswald slipped into the Texas Theater without buying a ticket.

(27) When approached by police in the Texas Theater, Oswald said “Well, it is all over now.”

 (28) Oswald then fought the police and tried to pull his revolver out.

(29) After arrest, Oswald refused to even give his name to arresting officers.

30) Oswald made a clenched-fist salute to reporters.

(31) Oswald refused a lie detector test.

32) After visiting him on Saturday, Marina came away convinced of Oswald’s guilt.

 (33) Oswald’s Mannlicher-Carcano rifle was found on the sixth floor of the TSBD.

 (34) The mostly intact bullet (CE 399) and two of the fragments were fired from this rifle.

(35) The three expended shells on the sixth floor were “fired in and ejected from” Oswald’s rifle.

(36) A handmade paper bag large enough to carry Oswald’s rifle was found in the sniper’s nest.

(37) Oswald’s prints were found on boxes that comprised the sniper’s nest.

 (38) Oswald was the sole owner of the revolver found in his possession on arrest.

 (39) The bullets recovered from Tippit’s body were consistent with being fired from Oswald’s .38.

(40) The four cartridge shells found at the Tippit murder scene were fired from Oswald’s revolver.

(41) A paraffin test on Oswald’s hands showed he’d fired a revolver just before his arrest.

(42) Oswald left his blue jacket behind in the TSBD.

(43) Oswald’s tan jacket was found along the path Tippit’s killer took.

(44) Oswald’s work clipboard was found on the sixth floor of the TSBD.

(45) Oswald lied about owning a rifle, and about owning the Mannlicher-Carcano specifically.

(46) Oswald lied about being in the backyard photo where he was holding his rifle.

(47) Oswald lied about having seen the picture before.

(48) Oswald lied about living at the place where the picture with the rifle was taken.

(49) Oswald lied about telling Wesley Frazier the curtain rod story. 

 (50) Oswald lied about putting a long package into Frazier’s car that morning.

(51) Oswald told police the only thing he’d brought to work that morning was his lunch.

 (52) Oswald lied about having lunch on the first floor with two other employees.

(53) Oswald lied about where he’d bought his revolver.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reclaiming_History

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Bugliosi

“JFK” 5.6 seconds?

JFK 6 Seconds. Inspired by a quote from David Von Peins website.

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/oliver-stone-blunder.html

In Olivers Stones JFK, he accidentally proves the Warren Commission RIGHT in regards to the 5.6 seconds to shoot a rifle.

Even though Kevin Costner says it took “between 6 and 7 seconds” you can see for yourself that the actor could operate the bolt action rifle in and five and a half seconds.

Of course, we would have to factor in more time for the shooter to aim….

https://mattkprovideo.com/2020/11/17/jfk-5-6-seconds/

McAdams figures

John McAdams, professor of Political Science at Marquette University,

posted at alt.assassination.jfk May 31, 2001, t


OK, folks, here it is, almost complete and ready to go onto my site:
[http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/earwitnesses.htm]
It’s a tabulation of what the Dealey Plaza earwitnesses reporting hearing during the
shooting. I get the following:
Depository Witnesses: 55
Knoll Witnesses 35
Other location 9
Two different locations 5
Note that witnesses were classified as “two different locations” only when they
reported distinct impressions of shots from two different locations. Hearing shots but
being uncertain of what the location was (“TSBD or Knoll”) is relegated to “does not know”
as are impressions that are distinct but don’t allow distinguishing between possible
shooter locations (“from the right side”).
I’m now convinced that [Stewart] Galanor was right when he assured me that the HSCA
undercounted the “Knoll” category. On the other hand, I think Galanor badly overcounted
it.
It’s clear, however, that a majority of the witnesses who offered any testimony as to
the source of the shots said they came from the Depository, and the ratio of Depository to
Knoll witnesses is 1.57/1.00.
Conspiracists really need to stop claiming that the earwitness testimony supports a
Grassy Knoll shooter. Not only did more witnesses hear shots from the Depository, but only
five witnesses heard shots from two locations. If we grant that at least “somebody” was
shooting from the Sniper’s Nest, that doesn’t really leave much room for a Grassy Knoll
shooter.

Jack Rubys Polygraph

 Question. Did you know Oswald before November 22, 1963?
         Answer. No. (16)
         Question. Did you assist Oswald in the assassination?
         Answer. No. (17)
         Question. Are you now a member of the Communist Party?
         Answer. No (18)
         Question. Have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?
         Answer. No. (19)
         Question. Are you now a member of any group that advocates the violent overthrow of the U.S. Government?
         Answer. No. (20)
         Question. Have you ever been a member of any group that advocates violent overthrow of the U.S. Government?
         Answer. No. (21)
         Question. Between the assassination and the shooting, did anybody you know tell you they knew Oswald?
         Answer. No. (22)
         Question. Aside from anything you said to George Senator on Sunday morning, did you ever tell anyone else that you intended to shoot Oswald?
         Answer. No. (23)
         Question. Did you shoot Oswald in order to silence him?
         Answer. No. (24)
         Question. Did you first decide to shoot Oswald on Friday night?
         Answer. No. (25)
         Question. Did you first decide to shoot Oswald on Saturday morning?
         Answer. No. (26)
         Question. Did you first decide to shoot Oswald on Saturday night?
         Answer. Yes. (27)
         Question. Did you first decide to shoot Oswald on Sunday morning?
         Answer. Yes. (28)
         Question. Were you on the sidewalk at the time Lieutenant Pierce’s car stopped on the ramp exit?
         Answer. Yes. (29)
         Question. Did you enter the jail by walking through an alleyway?
         Answer. No. (30)
         Question. Did you walk past the guard at the time Lieutenant Pierce’s ear was parked on the ramp exit.
         Answer. Yes. (31)
         Question. Did you talk with any Dallas police officers on Sunday, November 24, prior to the shooting.
         Answer. No. (32)
         Question. Did you see the armored car before it entered the basement?
          Answer. No. (33)
         Question. Did you enter the police department through the door at the rear of the east side of the jail?
          Answer. No. (34)
         Question. After talking to Little Lynn, did you hear any announcement that Oswald was about to be moved.
         Answer. No. (35)
         Question. Before you left your apartment Sunday morning, did anyone tell you the armored car was on the way to the police department?
         Answer. No. (36)
         Question. Did you get a Wall Street Journal at the Southwestern Drug Store during the week before the assassination?
         Answer. No. (37)
         Question. Do you have any knowledge of a Wall Street Journal addressed to Mr. J.E. Bradshaw Answer. No. (38)
         Question. To your knowledge, did any of your friends or did you telephone the FBI in Dallas between 2 or 3 a.m. Sunday morning?
         Answer. No. (39)
         Question. Did you or any of your friends to your knowledge telephone the sheriff’s office between 2 or 3 a.m. Sunday morning?
         Answer. No. (40)
         Question. Did you go to the Dallas police station at any time on Friday, November 22, 1963, before you went to the synagogue?
         Answer. No. (41)
         Question. Did you go to synagogue that Friday night.
         Answer. Yes. (42)
         Question. Did you see Oswald in the Dallas jail on Friday night?
         Answer. Yes. (43)
         Question. Did you have a gun with you when you went to the Friday midnight press conference at the jail.
         Answer. No. (44)
         Question. Is everything you told the Warren Commission the entire truth?
          Answer. Yes.
         Question. Have you ever knowingly attended any meetings of the Communist Party or any other group that advocates violent overthrow of the Government?
         Answer. No.
         Question. Is any member of your immediate family or any close friend, a member of the Communist Party?
         Answer. No. (47)
         Question. Is any member of your immediate family or any close friend a member of any group that advocates the violent overthrow of the Government?
         Answer. No. (48)
         Question. Did any close friend or any member of your immediate family ever attend a meeting of the Communist Party?
         Answer. No.
         Question. Did any close friend or any member of your immediate family ever attend a meeting of any group that advocates the violent overthrow of the Government?
         Answer. No. (50)
         Question. Did you ever meet Oswald at your post office box?
         Answer. No. (51)
         Question. Did you use your post office mailbox to do any business with Mexico or Cuba?
         Answer. No. (52)
         Question. Did you do business with Castro-Cuba?
         Answer. No. (53)
         Question. Was your trip to Cuba solely for pleasure?
         Answer. Yes. (54)
         Question. Have you now told us the truth concerning why you carried $2,200 in cash on you?
         Answer. Yes.
         Question. Did any foreign influence cause you to shoot Oswald?
         Answer. No.
         Question. Did you shoot Oswald because of any influence of the underworld?
         Answer. No. (57)
         Question. Did you shoot Oswald because of a labor union influence?
         Answer. No. (58)
         Question. Did any long-distance telephone calls which you made before the assassination of the President have anything to do with the assassination?
         Answer. No.
         Question. Did any of your long-distance telephone calls concern the shooting of Oswald?
         Answer. No.
         Question. Did you shoot Oswald in order to save Mrs. Kennedy the ordeal of a trial?
         Answer. Yes. (61)
         Question. Did you know the Tippit that was killed?
         Answer. No. (62)
         Question. Did you tell the truth about relaying the message to Ray Brantley to get McWillie a few guns?
         Answer. Yes. (63)
         Question. Did you go to the assembly room on Friday night to get the telephone number of KLIF?
         Answer. Yes. (64)
         Question. Did you ever meet with Oswald and Officer Tippit at your club?
         Answer. No. (65)
         Question. Were you at the Parkland Hospital at any time on Friday?
         Answer. No. (66)
         Question. Did you say anything when you shot Oswald other than what you’ve testified about?
         Answer. No. (67)
         Question. Have members of your family been physically harmed because of what you did?
         Answer. No. (68)
         Question. Do you think members of your family are now in danger because of what you did?
         Answer. [No response.] (69)
         Question. Is Mr. Fowler in danger because he is defending you?
         Answer. [No. response.] (70)
         Question. Did “Blackie” Hanson speak to you just before you shot Oswald?
         Answer. No. (71)

Oswalds daughter

https://mattkprovideo.com/2020/10/30/oswalds-daughter/

New York Times Article on LeeHarvey Oswalds daughter:

Lee Harvey’s Oldest; June Oswald By Steve Salerno, April 30, 1995

MORE THAN 30 YEARS AFTER the Kennedy assassination, Lee Harvey Oswald is a name that will not go away. One of the latest authors to wade into the conspiracy waters is Norman Mailer, whose book “Oswald’s Tale: An American Mystery” will be published next month. The assassination has also been a constant in the life of June Oswald Porter, the 33-year-old daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. In her early years, grocery shopping with her mother, Marina, and sister, Rachel, took place amid stares and finger-pointing; hushed conversations ignited around them like flash fires as they walked the supermarket aisles. Because Marina Oswald realized that she and her children could become the focus of attention at any time, she made sure June and Rachel were always neatly dressed — no matter how small the chore, and despite the fact that the family was often financially strapped. “She never knew when we’d run into someone, and she didn’t want us to look like poor white trash,” June says simply.

Upon entering public school, June took the surname of her stepfather, Kenneth Porter, who married Marina in 1965. But anonymity exacted a curious price of its own, as June faced myriad graceless references to her father, mother and family. Even an intended compliment could hold hidden barbs — as when a male co-worker remarked on June’s resemblance to “a young Marina Oswald,” then immediately apologized, saying he “didn’t mean to insult her” by invoking the infamous name.

Nonetheless, during several interviews over the past year, she reports being content. And she recalls her childhood as a “pretty happy” time, thanks in large part to her stepfather. June is quieter about her own marriage, which ended in 1992. She remains protective of her privacy, distancing herself and her sons, ages 6 and 3, from the oddball clique of assassination cultists who have dogged the Oswald women — Marina, now 53, June, and Rachel, 31 — ever since the events of Nov. 22, 1963. (June has requested that her married name, which she still uses in business, not be printed.)

Despite privacy concerns, she’s pushing for the release of all records pertaining to the assassination. “We have to get the Government to move before it’s too late.”

Q: What are your thoughts on Norman Mailer’s new book?A: I don’t have a comment on it as far as its conclusions because I haven’t read them, but I did start the book. Mailer is such a great writer; I was just so enthralled. The first chapter opens with my family, and he goes way back to my great-grandmother in Russia. This is material I never would have known about insofar as my mother’s side of the family, because my mother was illegitimate, you know. It’s a little bit like opening a family album you didn’t know existed before.

I can tell you that I am very excited about the book in concept. I believe he’s the first writer-researcher to get interviews with sources in the Russian Government and so this is an opportunity to shed new light on the subject from an area that has never been explored in any meaningful depth.

Q: To what extent have you followed the various conspiracy theories?A: It’s only in recent years that I’ve started to get involved in all that, mostly as part of trying to get the records released.

There was a bill passed at the end of the Bush Administration that required all Government agencies to review their files for any information related to the assassination and to release it — unless they felt there were matters of national security or a couple of other issues. The law said that if they felt that way, then those documents needed to be turned over to the Assassination Records Review Board and those folks would review the records and either concur, release them in blacked-out state or release them entirely.

Q: Over the years, you’ve kept a pretty low profile. Why have you started to speak out?A: Well, there was a lot of misinformation being released related to a book, “Case Closed,” by Gerald Posner. And they got my mother on television in a live interview — she still doesn’t have a good grasp of the language — and they were asking her specific questions about this book. She hadn’t read it. I felt they manipulated her and made her look foolish.

I had already written a letter to President Clinton to try to make sure he would appoint this review board from the Bush legislation to review assassination records, and to release those records. I was really supportive. Since I hadn’t gotten a response, I toyed with the idea that I might have to go public. When my mother came on and this interview went so badly, I decided I really wanted to rebut.

Q: I guess you must be encouraged that the review board was finally sworn in last year.A: Yes, I’m also very excited about that. They first met last April in Washington. And there have been public hearings there and in Dallas and Boston.

Q: What is the status of your present-day identity? It sounds as if most people are not aware you’re Lee Oswald’s daughter.A: Yes and no. Now, Mom does articles that she doesn’t bother to tell me she’s doing, and sometimes my name comes up. We always used my stepfather’s name, Porter, growing up, even though we were never legally adopted. My secretary in my last job put two and two together based on one of those articles. She copied it and put it on all my staff’s desks.

I didn’t really want to be the center of gossip in this whole building. So I called my staff in, a group of 10 or so, and I said: “Yes, that is me in the article. Obviously, if I’d wanted to share that I would have told everyone a long time ago. I don’t think it’s relevant to anything we do here and I appreciate you keeping it to yourself.”

My biggest concern was that people at the office had my home address and phone number and I didn’t want it leaked to The National Enquirer. I have two small children, I’m divorced, I didn’t want people to harass the kids.Q: Give me an example of what you’d consider harassment.A: When I was pregnant with my first, some lady got my phone number and called in the middle of the night. And she said, “June Oswald?” That catches you off guard when you just wake up. And I said, “Yes?” And she said: “I’m so-and-so, and I just want you to know that I’ve written a song about you — and your child. And I’m gonna be in Dallas, and I want to sing it to you.”

I said I appreciate it, but I really don’t get involved in that. You try to be nice because you don’t want to make somebody upset who’s going to seek you out if they’re kooky enough to do that stuff anyway.

There’s always been this little group that’s followed us — Mom, Rachel and me — and calls us and is fascinated by anything surrounding us. My first serious boyfriend — that’s what he was fascinated about. He tracked me down. He said things when we were together like he really wanted to have children because “that would be the blood of Lee Harvey Oswald that was flowing through the kids.”

So he moved to Boston and wanted me to join him. I move all the way up there, and his parents wouldn’t even let us stay in his house because I was the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. They said it would depreciate the value of their home.

Then I find out he’s been doing some quote-unquote assassination research. So I ended up supporting him. Anyway, the only person I knew up there was Priscilla Johnson McMillan, who wrote my mother’s book. We stayed with her for the summer.

My boyfriend would sneak down to Priscilla’s basement and read all her old files. He sold an article for an astronomical amount back then — I think it was $25,000. The way I finally woke up was, one night he said, “I’m gonna sell an article to Penthouse or Playboy” — I forget which — “and it’s about your mother. I’m convinced that your mother and Priscilla had a sexual relationship.” So I said, O.K., this is it. Just get out.

Q: Tell me about growing up in the aftermath of the assassination. I know you were just a toddler, but do you have any recollections of turbulence in the household?A: I don’t have any real memories of those ages. I know some people can remember vividly like it was yesterday, but I don’t do that — even about yesterday.

I do remember that our phones were tapped. We always had this really bad connection, and when you’d pick up the phone you’d hear that other click. This was before wiretapping got more sophisticated. For all I know it’s still tapped.

Mom was always overprotective of us. We didn’t use the Oswald name, and it didn’t come up a lot around the house except when reporters would call. It was always a big deal in November, when it was very stressful in the house. Mom would smoke all the time. Reporters came over and she would tell us, “Shhhh, go in the other room.”

Q: When were you actually told about your father and the assassination?A: Something had come up where Mom had old boxes of letters out. People sent us money following the assassination, because Mom was young with two small children and didn’t speak the language.

Somehow those boxes came down and she was reading, and I guess she felt it was time to tell us. She sat us down, with my stepbrother, and started to explain who our father was — that it wasn’t Kenneth — and who Lee was and what he had done. I just remember crying a lot because Mom was crying.

Q: How old were you then?A: It would have been, like, first grade. And then, they tell a story about how after that I stood up in front of the whole class and said, “My father shot the President.” Just out of the blue. But I don’t remember that.

The next memory I actually have is in second grade. We were studying the Presidents. The Presidents were all around the walls in the rooms. And we got to President Kennedy and I was told to go across the hall during that one. So I sat across the hall in a time-out room.

Q: How did you feel about being singled out?A: I remember what I did during that time-out was, I plotted how I could run for class president and win! So I never connected it as a big negative or anything.

Rachel felt differently. She has always felt really bogged down by it. She didn’t feel like Kenneth was her dad. She wanted to know Lee; she wants Lee to be a saint. Well, I was satisfied with my dad, so I’ve never felt this big need to connect with Lee or do the daughter-father thing.Q: One can’t help but notice that you address him as “Lee.”A: I’ve always called him that. My father is Kenneth Porter, the man I grew up with, the man who was there for my mother and Rachel and me.Q: And if someone were to show scientifically that Lee Oswald was or wasn’t involved, that wouldn’t make a difference to you?A: It would make a difference in the sense of justice being served. If the truth can be found that shows Lee had nothing to do with the assassination, I would feel better in that there have been a lot of things said and done regarding my family that all proceeded from an erroneous perception of what he did or didn’t do.

But you have to understand that, aside from what role he had in the assassination, there’s the issue of what role he had in our family. I know that in my life, Lee wasn’t a good man. He wasn’t much of a husband, he wasn’t much of a father. He beat my mother. There were times when we didn’t have milk to drink. We lived in poor housing, or were taken in by others. So if I’m able to be detached or seem cold and unemotional about it, it’s because I look at Lee in those terms.Q: I assume you’ve seen the footage of Lee being shot by Jack Ruby. Are you able to maintain the same detachment when you see that?A: The first time I saw it I was very upset, but it gets to the point where it almost becomes unreal, this movie you’re watching that has very little to do with you as a person.

Mostly I feel bad that Lee was never able to tell his story. He tried to after the arrest but everybody discounted it. I would have liked for him to have his day in court.Q: Where do you stand today as far as your perception of what really happened out there in Dealey Plaza?A: I’ve never publicly said one way or the other for sure. There are a lot of assassination buffs who have analyzed all the technical data and the other available material and even they don’t agree about what happened.Q: But are you comfortable with the fact that Lee Oswald played at least some role?A: I think there definitely is circumstantial evidence that could imply he had something to do with it because of the characters he was hanging out with in New Orleans. But you know, just because you’re hanging out with a weird group — they could have set him up, and he could have had no idea what was going on that day.Q: Did you ever take the so-called assassination tour?A: Not until recently. I went on a car trip up to the house I had lived in with Lee, Lee’s boarding house, another house Mom had lived in with Lee that’s still standing, the path of the motorcade, where the bullets hit.Q: How did you feel about that?A: It was — unusual. I didn’t break down and cry or anything. It was just kind of eerie.Q: I’m sure there must have been a lot of unusual incidents as you were growing up.A: I remember Rachel’s seventh-grade dance. So this little boy she was going with, his parents were going to come get her and they were going to go to the dance.

Well, we’re all waiting, and a car pulls up in the driveway, and Mom rushes out to greet these parents, and they happen to be a man and a woman, and they’ve got a camera, and she says: “Oh, you’re gonna take pictures! Great!” And she’s just welcoming them with open arms. And they say: “Oh, we can take pictures? Oh great!”

Another car pulls up — and that’s the parents and the little boy. The first car was The National Enquirer. But it was so funny because Mom talked to them for — I mean, nobody noticed that the date wasn’t there!

During college, Rachel supported herself at the Texas Chili Parlor in Austin. It’s right across from the Capitol, and she was a waitress. Well, there’s a travel guide she found out about that actually listed the Texas Chili Parlor and said the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald worked there. So she became sort of a tourist attraction.Q: Your childhood doesn’t sound like it was easy.A: Mom kept us together. She was pretty strong. I don’t know if I could’ve done it and kept my sanity: two small children, don’t speak the language, dirt poor, everybody in the country pointing their finger at you — hating you in some cases. I’m a strong woman, but I don’t know if I could’ve kept myself together. But she did. She kept herself together for us.Q: Was any of this an issue in your marriage?A: No. My husband couldn’t have cared less. But I still have problems in that area, because I date a lot. I always feel torn by whether I’m required to tell somebody about my history. I usually end up telling people that I’m seeing very often. And I’ll tell you why: It could come up at any minute.Q: Did you see the “Seinfeld” episode in which they’re at the ball park, and they get spat upon, and –A: The “second spitter,” right. It was hilarious.Q: If someone was to ask you today who your father is, what would you say? Whom do you really think of as dad?A: Kenneth. Now, the word father does mean Lee to me. But dad is Dad.

And you know, it’s not Lee’s fault he got killed by Jack Ruby. I don’t blame him for not being here for me. I do blame him for having beat my mother, and not being a good father — or a good provider. Because some people have called me and said, “I knew your father and he really loved you.” I have to admit that when I heard that he used to play with me all the time, that was a nice feeling. I try to hold that in the back of my head.

Q: Do you worry about telling your children as they grow up?A: I do. I started worrying about, first of all, do I have a responsibility to tell them? What do I tell them? And I realize that I’m kind of cold about it, so how do I tell them? Do I need to be more compassionate about it? I want to make sure they understand why I’m so matter-of-fact about it. But see, I’m matter-of-fact about a lot in my life.

The other thing is, you just worry genealogically. Lee was illegitimate, and so was my mother. I’ve wondered what my kids are going to turn out like. Are they going to take after some ancestor we don’t even know? There’s a lot of genetic things you can’t even control that are inborn in your kids.Q: How are things between you and your mom these days?A: The last two years have been very stressful, because she started doing things that she hasn’t let us know about, then all of a sudden I hear about it or see it on TV. Like she did a movie and it involved me and Rachel, and she didn’t tell us first. I think her physical health and mental health have been damaged in recent years over all of the pressures put on her.Q: After all this time?A: Part of it was the big anniversary, the 30th. There were a lot of things leading up to that that they wanted Mom to do, and Mom in recent years has gotten more and more involved, I guess because she’s getting older and trying to rectify some of the things she may have done unintentionally — like stating publicly that Lee did it. I’ve never seen her act like that, like she needed to become more of a crusader, and it’s taking its toll.Q: On your relationship with her as well?A: It has put certain strains on it. Mom accused me one day of being ashamed of who I was. I don’t think that’s true. It’s not a matter of being ashamed, it’s a matter of wanting to be judged as June Oswald and not “the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald.”

Q: Do you and Rachel argue much about this?A: Yes. Just in recent years; but yes. We are very close — except when these kinds of things come up.

See, this is the difference. We visited the set of “J.F.K.” when it was going on, and somebody said, “Your father was a hero.” Well, that’s what Rachel wants to believe. Rachel loved listening to that. She got all caught up, because she wants so badly to have this identification with her father.

That didn’t set well with me. If they could prove somehow that he was innocent, he’d still not be a hero, he’d be a martyr. I have to remind Rachel that this is the man who beat our mother, who didn’t provide for his children. I tell her, “Rachel, for all we know, we could have been living in the streets.” Because that’s mostly what I think of when I think of Lee.

As for what his exact role in the assassination was — well, he’ll have to be judged for that before God.